By merely lurking in the irental thread to check what is going on on the other side of the pond, I am rather pleased that the LFS-NTM thingy that was announced in 2008 is still on hold.
The current model is dated, has known flaws, but at least it works without tweaking every other week...
I'm waiting for RF2 to hand out free demos, to check if my laptop can run it and see what it is like - while still hoping for LFS to step in front of the competition and prove all the negative beings around here wrong.
I do not understand why you, CheerioDM, need that much attention. This debate has been going on forever as complaining has never brought us any good - rather the opposite. I do not expect that you can create a constructive discussion any more on a topic that has been trodden bare years ago.
The current model is dated, has known flaws, but at least it works without tweaking every other week...
I'm waiting for RF2 to hand out free demos, to check if my laptop can run it and see what it is like - while still hoping for LFS to step in front of the competition and prove all the negative beings around here wrong.
I do not understand why you, CheerioDM, need that much attention. This debate has been going on forever as complaining has never brought us any good - rather the opposite. I do not expect that you can create a constructive discussion any more on a topic that has been trodden bare years ago.
Thanks a lot for the information, Victor.
It feels good to have something interesting / new to read on the forums from time to time!
It feels good to have something interesting / new to read on the forums from time to time!
Congrats!
Good to see them devs are still watching this forum, they sure need extra hands in keeping the place tidy...
Good luck
Good to see them devs are still watching this forum, they sure need extra hands in keeping the place tidy...
Good luck
Furthermore he does not even seem to be drunk
Thanks for supporting LFS, anyways!
I learnt how to race with CTRA (not being fast, I lack skill for that).
I learnt how to avoid T1 wrecks, how to pass and get passed midfield, how to recognize drivers who can be trusted for a good door to door battle (event for 18th position).
The points / license system did not bother me because my driving improved with my licenses, not limiting me at the time.
I would NOT do it again. I feel fair and safe-ish on track, and I never jump into a combo that I do not remember without 1-2 laps offline / practice beforehand. Therefore I would not take again the learning path, step after step, as if I were a beginner.
CTRA was good for me as a newbie, and I thank the admin team for making it happen. Such a system seems unnecessary and boring for experienced racers, so I count myself lucky that it existed when I could benefit from it but I would probably not participate in it again.
Shameless plug: we at dead men racing have an interesting (manly) combo this week: RAC@WE1. Pickup races with live admins mostly in the evenings all week, 1 hour race on thursday. I need practice, the mighty ones run 3 seconds faster in 1:52
I learnt how to avoid T1 wrecks, how to pass and get passed midfield, how to recognize drivers who can be trusted for a good door to door battle (event for 18th position).
The points / license system did not bother me because my driving improved with my licenses, not limiting me at the time.
I would NOT do it again. I feel fair and safe-ish on track, and I never jump into a combo that I do not remember without 1-2 laps offline / practice beforehand. Therefore I would not take again the learning path, step after step, as if I were a beginner.
CTRA was good for me as a newbie, and I thank the admin team for making it happen. Such a system seems unnecessary and boring for experienced racers, so I count myself lucky that it existed when I could benefit from it but I would probably not participate in it again.
Shameless plug: we at dead men racing have an interesting (manly) combo this week: RAC@WE1. Pickup races with live admins mostly in the evenings all week, 1 hour race on thursday. I need practice, the mighty ones run 3 seconds faster in 1:52
My unbiased opinion on this Reno/Joe incident, as a spectator watching the replay:
It seems that the collision could not be avoided - I would call it a racing incident.
Reno initiated the chain reaction by clipping the car in front and quickly dropping 20kmh speed, so there was not enough time and room for the pack behind to react.
Both Joe and Reno attacked this braking zone very aggressively, Reno having the highest instant speed all through the turn entry until the initial collision.
Apart from that thank you all for the show, nice driving and event you have here.
It seems that the collision could not be avoided - I would call it a racing incident.
Reno initiated the chain reaction by clipping the car in front and quickly dropping 20kmh speed, so there was not enough time and room for the pack behind to react.
Both Joe and Reno attacked this braking zone very aggressively, Reno having the highest instant speed all through the turn entry until the initial collision.
Apart from that thank you all for the show, nice driving and event you have here.
Download the setups from setup sites (inferno / setupgrid, links are somewhere in the forums)
Place them in the LFS "data/setups" folder (they should be there as .set files)
Inside LFS go to the garage (shift+p or button) and select the correct setup on the right of the screen.
You can refer to the manual for more detailed information.
It is much more fun to developp your own setup, or derive it from other's - although it is time consuming.
You can also receive setups online, refer to the manual for the procedure (basically all you have to do is click on the button to receive the setup, and name it for it to be saved).
Good luck!
Place them in the LFS "data/setups" folder (they should be there as .set files)
Inside LFS go to the garage (shift+p or button) and select the correct setup on the right of the screen.
You can refer to the manual for more detailed information.
It is much more fun to developp your own setup, or derive it from other's - although it is time consuming.
You can also receive setups online, refer to the manual for the procedure (basically all you have to do is click on the button to receive the setup, and name it for it to be saved).
Good luck!
Hi there! Welcome.
Using your bank account in China, you can probably do one of the following:
Buy a "prepaid" card for internet transactions, that you can use to get LFS
Transfer money either to a moneybookers or paypal account that you create - this will be a local bank transfer to a local moneybookers or paypal account. This will charge your moneybookers or paypal account, with which you will be able to transfer money to LFS.
You could also link you local bank account directly to a paypal or moneybookers account - not as safe but faster to get credited.
You Dell inspiron probably suffers from lack of graphic cards power (usually no dedicated GFX memory on these things) - turn of AA completely as it is not useful for a laptop screen and your FPS should rise. Then adjust your LFS graphical options to improve even more (use 1/2 texture size, don't draw trees...)
Good luck
Regards.
Happy birthday. One more... slowly getting to the other side of the scale, when we have more years behind that years ahead. Better enjoy them well!
Openly discussing special hand treatments around here will get you banned. Beware!
The problem with LFS AIs is that they are using exactly the same physics engine as we are. This is a very bold approach from Scawen, because if he wants them to be competitive he has to design them as truly intelligent. He stated in the past that he has not been able to make them drive as fast as human players.
I'm not sure if he will ever be able to improve them so that they are a challenge for the fast ones.
In RF the AIs do not follow the same physics rules, that is why they can be a challenge.
I'm not sure if he will ever be able to improve them so that they are a challenge for the fast ones.
In RF the AIs do not follow the same physics rules, that is why they can be a challenge.
What about a pits entry line on the right of the track? cones / red white barriers to delimitate if needed... it would be a narrow turn into pits be overall safer.
A wheel would be like getting a whole new game. It did it for me, I was a mouser for years and got a G25.
It will not be enough to keep you interested, unless you are into hotlapping. You will have to actively look for places to drive. Find out what you want from online racing (winning, sprint races, endurance, fast switching combos, AS3 GTRs...) and then you will be able to select a few servers you like.
cargame.nl is ok for pickup races, combo switches often / track voting is on. There are not so many racers in each class though, and you can find anything driving standard wise (from learning the track by wall hitting to alien fast). There are also quite a few leagues around, and many "niche" servers.
LFS itself is not so important, the fun is in racing - for that you need decent physics, and good opposition. If you can spice that up with tactics (setup, pitstops) and adrenaline, you're good to go - but that could also be in RFact. or IRacin.
Good luck. And try a wheel
It will not be enough to keep you interested, unless you are into hotlapping. You will have to actively look for places to drive. Find out what you want from online racing (winning, sprint races, endurance, fast switching combos, AS3 GTRs...) and then you will be able to select a few servers you like.
cargame.nl is ok for pickup races, combo switches often / track voting is on. There are not so many racers in each class though, and you can find anything driving standard wise (from learning the track by wall hitting to alien fast). There are also quite a few leagues around, and many "niche" servers.
LFS itself is not so important, the fun is in racing - for that you need decent physics, and good opposition. If you can spice that up with tactics (setup, pitstops) and adrenaline, you're good to go - but that could also be in RFact. or IRacin.
Good luck. And try a wheel
This may be related to the modified collisions detection.
read this from Scawen:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1585747#post1585747
Could it be that you experience something similar? If you have driven thousands of laps of the same combo, you are more likely to detect small changes in handling.
We also are in a testpatch time, whitch means many forumers are running testpatch A3 while the others remain on Z28.
Unfortunately these are not compatible, so it spreads the (meager in your timezone) community.
Fortunately it gives us a wonderful opportunity, testing the new features and discussing them on the testpatch forum.
Join us for some bug hunting!
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=74811
Unfortunately these are not compatible, so it spreads the (meager in your timezone) community.
Fortunately it gives us a wonderful opportunity, testing the new features and discussing them on the testpatch forum.
Join us for some bug hunting!
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=74811
You're gonna enjoy LX4/LX6 on Aston North 
and TBOs on Kyoto race tracks are awesome as well. Have fun!
and TBOs on Kyoto race tracks are awesome as well. Have fun!There are no more "S1" servers - you can access any server that presents S1 contents (track, cars) combination.
There used to be a guaranteed S1 content only server, active, with the CTRA area - extinct.
Problem with S1 is tracks quantity - even a server running road cars (S1) like to venture on Westhill / Aston, therefore excluding S1 users
I suggest you get S2, S1 IMO is not worth it - not in term of contents, but in terms of online racing accessibility.
There used to be a guaranteed S1 content only server, active, with the CTRA area - extinct.
Problem with S1 is tracks quantity - even a server running road cars (S1) like to venture on Westhill / Aston, therefore excluding S1 users
I suggest you get S2, S1 IMO is not worth it - not in term of contents, but in terms of online racing accessibility.
Read this from Scawen (when he discovered the flaws in the WIP tyre model):
progress report 1
Progress report 2
It seems that tyre heating / cooling was part of his problems, so... he's working on it
progress report 1
Progress report 2
It seems that tyre heating / cooling was part of his problems, so... he's working on it
For information only:
Frame rate from z28 to z30/32 improved impressively on my system.
The improvement is consistent over the tracks / situations, around 15-20%.
However full grid on custom tracks takes a high toll - I only get 30ish FPS upon race starts
Laptop with XP3, decent CPU, Nvidia quadro FX770M (512)
Good work!
Frame rate from z28 to z30/32 improved impressively on my system.
The improvement is consistent over the tracks / situations, around 15-20%.
However full grid on custom tracks takes a high toll - I only get 30ish FPS upon race starts
Laptop with XP3, decent CPU, Nvidia quadro FX770M (512)
Good work!
Please check the collision in the attached SPR around 4:06 (forget the driving, mouse + no sound...).
Collision with the "soft" wall seems spot on at first, then there is a second collision detected mid air and the car flies.
Is that due to the new collision detection with walls?
Using Z31, open config track AS1X - collision with soft wall going down corkscrew approx 100mph, FBM.
PS: Thank you for your excellent work so far! I'm really enjoying the progress
Collision with the "soft" wall seems spot on at first, then there is a second collision detected mid air and the car flies.
Is that due to the new collision detection with walls?
Using Z31, open config track AS1X - collision with soft wall going down corkscrew approx 100mph, FBM.
PS: Thank you for your excellent work so far! I'm really enjoying the progress
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Reason : PS
Thanks a lot for your work on these layouts, well implemented and creative.
It feels like christmas (2009) is all around us!
Keep it up!
It feels like christmas (2009
) is all around us!Keep it up!
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He either got it or got abducted by the BL T1 giant squid
.1) turn on the engine ("i" gnition)
2) check you clutch status ("F9") - if fully red bar, you will not move any more
2) check you clutch status ("F9") - if fully red bar, you will not move any more
The latest patch brought us a wonderful trick to play with:
Scawen greatly improved the multi screens display options, providing us with a wide range of settings.
This enhancement led us 1 screen user to be able to simulate (emulate? whatever...) 3-screen views on a single screen.
It may look like a gimmick but it allows you to set the center of the screen with a relatively low FOV (conveying a better sense of speed) while still being able to see on the sides, side views being slightly distorted of course.
So I would recommend that you fiddle with this "toy" - you may find an interesting compromise between side views and sense of speed.
Pic attached for clarity
Scawen greatly improved the multi screens display options, providing us with a wide range of settings.
This enhancement led us 1 screen user to be able to simulate (emulate? whatever...) 3-screen views on a single screen.
It may look like a gimmick but it allows you to set the center of the screen with a relatively low FOV (conveying a better sense of speed) while still being able to see on the sides, side views being slightly distorted of course.
So I would recommend that you fiddle with this "toy" - you may find an interesting compromise between side views and sense of speed.
Pic attached for clarity
Sort out your proirities:
If you have real talent, practice and be one of the bests / aim for a top team to improve faster, get into leagues.
If you don't have talent or time, find a place to race with competition at your level. Once you can handle the car and be competitive (1.35 BL1 XFG is competitive, mid pack wise) you can already have a lot of fun and close races. That's where I belong - I'm still trying to win, but I'd rather have a 5 lap door to door battle for the 15th spot than a win on a nearly empty demo server
If you have real talent, practice and be one of the bests / aim for a top team to improve faster, get into leagues.
If you don't have talent or time, find a place to race with competition at your level. Once you can handle the car and be competitive (1.35 BL1 XFG is competitive, mid pack wise) you can already have a lot of fun and close races. That's where I belong
- I'm still trying to win, but I'd rather have a 5 lap door to door battle for the 15th spot than a win on a nearly empty demo server FGED GREDG RDFGDR GSFDG